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This is a relatively low price for a 10GBit switch with 10GBase-T (RJ45 copper) ports. The switch has 12 SFP+ ports, 8 of which are combo SFP+/10GBase-T. The switch is unmanaged, which is unfortunate for some.

This price is $36 less than the lowest Amazon price listed on the camels.

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Depending on the data protocol, it's possible compression is being utilized to cram more data over the link. Or, your monitoring utility is misrepresenting the throughput rate due to skew in the time measurement vs. the data size measurement. Also, some hardware/software report data capacities/rates as 1MB = 1 million bytes, which is an approximation (and thus inflates the actual rate/capacity by ~5% for MB, and ~7% for a GB).

Also, it's highly doubtful you are actually exceeding a raw bit-rate of 1Gbps...that would require over-clocking the NICs on BOTH ends. Doing this is no simple task, and likely requires replacing an oscillator on the physical board, and I doubt it would work reliably if at all. So many assumptions in the chain would be violated (the drivers for the NIC assume a certain throughput, and probably wouldn't service the NIC fast enough....buffers would be undersized and overflow....the same oscillator probably drives the whole ASIC, and thus may impact the local bus, e.g. PCIe...and if it doesn't, then odds are the local bus would not have enough bandwidth negotiated to sustain the bandwidth of the LAN).

Protocols negotiate a link speed from a defined list, and the clocks on all ethernet equipment have to be within a fairly tight tolerance of the mandated spec in order to work at all.


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I would recommend, depending on what you're doing. I've read a fair bit of power users have made the jump and find it well worth the effort/money. It's honestly not that hard to saturate a GigE port. With data sizes (and resolutions) blowing up, and even wifi offering well in excess of 1000Mbps, 10Gb is where I want to go with it as soon as I can justify the price.

edit: to be clear, not *every* connection needs to be 10gb, but serving files/video or transferring into/out of a networked storage solution will benefit.
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Strange to see a 10gb switch that is unmanaged. Do home users really need 10gb connections?
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Strange to see a 10gb switch that is unmanaged. Do home users really need 10gb connections?
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Strange to see a 10gb switch that is unmanaged. Do home users really need 10gb connections?
You think this is overkill? Go on Linus tech tips and see how Linus wired his house with Fiber.
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Strange to see a 10gb switch that is unmanaged. Do home users really need 10gb connections?
Maybe for high speed attached storage?
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Strange to see a 10gb switch that is unmanaged. Do home users really need 10gb connections?
I would recommend, depending on what you're doing. I've read a fair bit of power users have made the jump and find it well worth the effort/money. It's honestly not that hard to saturate a GigE port. With data sizes (and resolutions) blowing up, and even wifi offering well in excess of 1000Mbps, 10Gb is where I want to go with it as soon as I can justify the price.

edit: to be clear, not *every* connection needs to be 10gb, but serving files/video or transferring into/out of a networked storage solution will benefit.
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Pretty interesting but you are only as fast as the slowest component in your network. In this case, it will probably be the disks/disk controller on your server. Still, it's a great price if you got 10 gb components.
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I bought this during black Friday. I am now able to move data to my Unraid server at ~180MB/s. I know this is nowhere near 10g speed, but it is an 80% increase over 1g. When moving 40TB, it makes a difference. I plan to upgrade my main PC to 10g, then I should be able to at least write to my FreeNAS server at something like 400MB/s. Are these switches basically being dumped because 10g is about to get a lot cheaper? Heard Intel has some CPU or chip set that supports 10g at little to no extra cost. Thinking that will somehow translate into cheap switches too.
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I bought this during black Friday. I am now able to move data to my Unraid server at ~180MB/s. I know this is nowhere near 10g speed, but it is an 80% increase over 1g. When moving 40TB, it makes a difference. I plan to upgrade my main PC to 10g, then I should be able to at least write to my FreeNAS server at something like 400MB/s. Are these switches basically being dumped because 10g is about to get a lot cheaper? Heard Intel has some CPU or chip set that supports 10g at little to no extra cost. Thinking that will somehow translate into cheap switches too.
Are the rg45 ports 10gb capable?
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Eh. Buy a used managed Cisco 10GB switch on eBay for 150 and be done with it.
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Eh. Buy a used managed Cisco 10GB switch on eBay for 150 and be done with it.
Maybe a 4 port SPF+.. unless I'm mistaken you are sorely mistaken.
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Pretty interesting but you are only as fast as the slowest component in your network. In this case, it will probably be the disks/disk controller on your server. Still, it's a great price if you got 10 gb components.
I use nvme as a cache on my homebrew nas... I could definitely make use of this. RN I'm using multiple dual port 10gbe cards--this would make it much less of a headache.
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I bought this during black Friday. I am now able to move data to my Unraid server at ~180MB/s. I know this is nowhere near 10g speed, but it is an 80% increase over 1g. When moving 40TB, it makes a difference. I plan to upgrade my main PC to 10g, then I should be able to at least write to my FreeNAS server at something like 400MB/s. Are these switches basically being dumped because 10g is about to get a lot cheaper? Heard Intel has some CPU or chip set that supports 10g at little to no extra cost. Thinking that will somehow translate into cheap switches too.
I'm not looking to challenge your experience, but you've piqued my curiosity. Doesn't gigabit top out at 125 MB/s? If so, what else contributes to your 80% increase?
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I'm not looking to challenge your experience, but you've piqued my curiosity. Doesn't gigabit top out at 125 MB/s? If so, what else contributes to your 80% increase?
Gig transfers range from about 28mb/sec to upwards of 90 mb/sec depending on lots of environmental factors. Maybe he's factoring the low end in his assertion.
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