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AWD (20% Off) - APEC Water Systems RO-90 Ultimate Series 90 GPD Ultra Safe Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Filter System - $135 (Like New) + Tax - FSSS

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I was looking at the AWD Master thread for some specific items and this popped up for a good deal on water filter systems.. I believed they deserved a separate thread for discussion and more attention :-)

This one is listed for MSRP $225 but available for $135 after 20% discount for Like New condition. Please select from AWD.

APEC Water Systems RO-90 [amazon.com] - $135 + Tax (After Discount)

I actually ordered the below one for myself.

APEC WFS-1000 Super Capacity Premium Quality 3 Stage Under-Sink Water Filter System [amazon.com] - $87 + Tax (Like New) - MSRP $140

APEC Top Tier 5-Stage Ultra Safe Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Filter System (ESSENCE ROES-50) [amazon.com] - $112 + Tax (Like New) - MSRP $190

APEC Top Tier Alkaline Mineral pH+ 75 GPD 6-Stage Ultra Safe Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Filter System (ESSENCE ROES-PH75) [amazon.com] - $139 + Tax (Like New) - MSRP $227

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I have owned this system for 3 years now...it is the only water my family will drink now.
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I have this same exact system for 2 years now. Bought it new for $150 and has been extremely reliable over the years. Filter and membrane replacements are easy to find as well.
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Good deal. With all the chemicals / pharmaceuticals / PFAS in the water which are unregulated, this should be a must for everyone. Make sure you pH balance out your water as the finished product is usually acidic.

You can either buy calcite along with the cartridge housing and filter housing for it to refill or buy the re-mineralizer [amazon.com] for ph balance.

I have piped the reject water to a bucket which I use for irrigation or flush water. The only negatives with RO are that you waste a lot of water for every gallon that is treated however RO is the top of the line treatment for all contaminants (lead, arsenic, radionuclides, pfas, pesticides, bacteria, micro-organisms). You can optimize the treatment to waste less and produce more water if you combine a pump [amazon.com] (which does increase your flow / capacity) with a flow limiter [amazon.com]. Note, this may reduce your membrane life slightly so monitor your tds prior to remineralizing.

See EWG website [ewg.org] for more info on YOUR water and methods of treatment / removal.

Source: I work in water/wastewater consulting and am a professional engineer.
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Good deal. With all the chemicals / pharmaceuticals / PFAS in the water which are unregulated, this should be a must for everyone. Make sure you pH balance out your water as the finished product is usually acidic.

You can either buy calcite along with the cartridge housing and filter housing for it to refill or buy the re-mineralizer [amazon.com] for ph balance.

I have piped the reject water to a bucket which I use for irrigation or flush water. The only negatives with RO are that you waste a lot of water for every gallon that is treated however RO is the top of the line treatment for all contaminants (lead, arsenic, radionuclides, pfas, pesticides, bacteria, micro-organisms). You can optimize the treatment to waste less and produce more water if you combine a pump [amazon.com] (which does increase your flow / capacity) with a flow limiter [amazon.com]. Note, this may reduce your membrane life slightly so monitor your tds prior to remineralizing.

See EWG website [ewg.org] for more info on YOUR water and methods of treatment / removal.

Source: I work in water/wastewater consulting and am a professional engineer.
What is your opinion of a water distiller vs reverse osmosis
Megahome Countertop Water Distiller, White, Glass Collection https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00026F...jEbPZ81FT5
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What is your opinion of a water distiller vs reverse osmosis
Megahome Countertop Water Distiller, White, Glass Collection https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00026F...jEbPZ81FT5
This works although it is less efficient and consumes more energy. It takes 5.5 hours to produce 1 gallon. RO would be more more efficient in that no electricity is required. Distilled water may also have some taste issues as there is no polishing (GAC / coconut / pH) step involved in post-treatment.
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How would I be able to tell how long one of these would last before needing replacement filters? I"m trying to see if it is worth getting this or continue refilling 5-gallon jugs at $1.75 each. Thanks for any insight.

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We have well water that we clean with chlorine in a 120 gallon contact/retention tank, then a screen filter, then we filter out the chlorine with activated carbon, then we do a water softener. What's left is some tannins (which I hope to remove by adding the right type of media to the softener), and whatever bad things we haven't tested for like Lead, Arsenic, etc. Taste isn't necessarily bad, but we refill the jugs for drinking water just to be safe.
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How would I be able to tell how long one of these would last before needing replacement filters? I"m trying to see if it is worth getting this or continue refilling 5-gallon jugs at $1.75 each. Thanks for any insight.

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We have well water that we clean with chlorine in a 120 gallon contact/retention tank, then a screen filter, then we filter out the chlorine with activated carbon, then we do a water softener. What's left is some tannins (which I hope to remove by adding the right type of media to the softener), and whatever bad things we haven't tested for like Lead, Arsenic, etc. Taste isn't necessarily bad, but we refill the jugs for drinking water just to be safe.
If you have no idea the concentrations or what you are dealing with, do a comprehensive drinking water test. These can be found here [amazon.com]or here [homedepot.com]. I would actually go a step further and order tests for radionuclides in the water as well.

These sediment / carbon cartridges in RO systems are throwaway in that once they are used and spent (usually 1 year), they have to be replaced. There are more practical solutions out there especially if your well system requires a lot of treatment like the carbon systems sold here [afwfilters.com]. Then you can just put this RO system in as a last line of defense to remove the last traces of pesticides, arsenic, lead, etc. The membranes usually last 3-5 years but i would install a tds meter prior to your remineralizer to detect the ppm as it comes out of the RO unit. It should be in the low teens. Once it starts getting higher, then you know your RO membrane needs to be replaced. I'd go with a with a dow filmtec [amazon.com] that is NSF rated versus the generic as it'll have slightly better removal rates and has been NSF certified (tested and confirmed the rated % of removal).

The convenience is water instantaneously versus having to buy and lug jugs of water. The cost will probably be favorable toward buying 5 gallons at 1.75 each but you have to consider time spent as well as what treatment was done for 5 gallons of water.

I have a 14 stage treatment process with sediment filters, catalytic carbon, softener, ion exchange (nitrate) ending in RO with a UV system cause where I live we have to deal with radionuclides, nitrates, pesticides, and uranium.
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If you have no idea the concentrations or what you are dealing with, do a comprehensive drinking water test. These can be found here [amazon.com]or here [homedepot.com]. I would actually go a step further and order tests for radionuclides in the water as well.

These sediment / carbon cartridges in RO systems are throwaway in that once they are used and spent (usually 1 year), they have to be replaced. There are more practical solutions out there especially if your well system requires a lot of treatment like the carbon systems sold here [afwfilters.com]. Then you can just put this RO system in as a last line of defense to remove the last traces of pesticides, arsenic, lead, etc. The membranes usually last 3-5 years but i would install a tds meter prior to your remineralizer to detect the ppm as it comes out of the RO unit. It should be in the low teens. Once it starts getting higher, then you know your RO membrane needs to be replaced. I'd go with a with a dow filmtec [amazon.com] that is NSF rated versus the generic as it'll have slightly better removal rates and has been NSF certified (tested and confirmed the rated % of removal).

The convenience is water instantaneously versus having to buy and lug jugs of water. The cost will probably be favorable toward buying 5 gallons at 1.75 each but you have to consider time spent as well as what treatment was done for 5 gallons of water.

I have a 14 stage treatment process with sediment filters, catalytic carbon, softener, ion exchange (nitrate) ending in RO with a UV system cause where I live we have to deal with radionuclides, nitrates, pesticides, and uranium.
Thank you, I've got samples of my water getting tested to see what else I need, but I'll take it from there with those test kits you mentioned and see what else I need to make sure the drinking water is safe.
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This works although it is less efficient and consumes more energy. It takes 5.5 hours to produce 1 gallon. RO would be more more efficient in that no electricity is required. Distilled water may also have some taste issues as there is no polishing (GAC / coconut / pH) step involved in post-treatment.
Note that some distillers only take 4 hours per gallon. They also produce no water waste whereas RO systems waste water in a ~3:1 ratio. Distillers are also zero-waste and have no upkeep fees (no filters to replace). If your home is powered by renewables then distillation is almost certainly more environmentally-friendly.

I'm not discounting your positive experience with ROs, just pointing out that the best filtration solution is not quite as black and white as you intimated.
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